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From: Christy christy020681@yahoo.com

Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:40:21 -0800 (PST)

 

Dear Jordan,

 

You probably think that I am crazy about now, but I got something to ask.  How can being a gay Christian be an oxymoron?  All are sinners.  People who get divorced aren't considered an oxymoron if they call themselves Christians, and Jesus was really against it.  There should be lots of things talking about divorce and killing.  The reason I say this, is because there is lots of violence against gays.  I don't think that God abandons somebody because they are gay.  There are lots of gay teenagers who kill themselves, because of pressures.

 

Thanks for reading this.

 

Sincerely,

 

Georgia

 

Thursday 23 Jan.

Dear Georgia,

 

No, I do not think you are crazy, either from our previous correspondence or here. Your concern is an understandable one. Bear in mind, however, that I am no theologian or biblical authority. I am, though, someone who rejected the Christian faith for many years prior to ultimately embracing it. From that standpoint, I can offer my perspective.

 

One of my many but strongest criticisms of the faith throughout my atheism was that, indeed, gays and lesbians suffered a harder beating from Christian zealots than other sinners. One thing all too many Christian political zealots overlook is that gays have a legal right to be gay (in most states anyway). Most of my concerns regarding sin and Christianity from a political standpoint are presented in my essay http://www.theism.net/authors/zjordan/docs_files/stone_files/stone.htm.

 

With my political aspect of all sin presented in the essay, let us consider the Christian-walk aspect. Un-repentant sin is the issue. It has been my experience with members of the gay community that gays demand that they remain in God’s grace whilst continuing their gay practice. As you presented, “I don't think that God abandons somebody because they are gay.” I figure a more accurate statement would be, “Some people abandon God so they can be gay.”

 

 Can and will God forgive gay persons? You bet! Please do not delude yourself into thinking that gay persons are merely born that way, therefore, they have no choice. Humans are born into sin(!) of all kinds! That is why some of us choose to leave our sin at THE CROSS.

 

If homosexuality were a genetic curse, twins who go in different directions would be scientific miracles. Many former homosexuals have experienced the miraculous turnarounds that other sinners experienced after coming to know the Lord. I personally know one former homosexual who made the turnaround. I was still an atheist when he presented me his story but I found it interesting that his religious conversion led him where it did. Contemporary Christian music presented another (Dennis Jernigan) who made the turnaround.

 

In response to your post regarding violence on gays, I know of no biblical backing. If you know of such, please advise me. Though God may speak harshly against homosexuality, I know of no verse commanding Christians to do homosexuals harm. We are to love them unconditionally. Though God elsewhere claims that our (Christian) works amount to no more than stinking rags, nowhere does He command us to treat our fellow Christians’ works as stink-filled. We as Christians are to love; God is to judge us all. “Judge not lest ye be judged” (somewhere in Christ’s New testament).

 

I have more forthcoming after putting this out to a couple e-groups for their input.

 

Until and after then, you remain welcome to write me.

 

In Him,

 

Jordan

 

From: "James Patrick Holding"

www.tektonics.org

 

To: G. Zeineldé Jordan, Se.
Subject: Re:
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:33:21 –0500

 

Hey bud,

It's right on; all I can add is that from my work in the prisons I know that folks are fully capable of switching "gayness" on and off like a light switch.

Take care and God bless,

YFS,

JP

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