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			<blockquote><title>Unreasonable Tolerance</title>
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        <h3>Unreasonable Tolerance<br>
        <i>-by Eric Matthew Vestrup</i></h3>
<p>
        Perhaps the saddest remnant that the 20th century popular culture will
        leave for future men and women is the denial of truth in the matters of
        religion and metaphysics. This legacy has consisted of and currently
        consists of psychologizing religion, viewing it strictly through
        utilitarian and humanitarian eyes. As one who lives and experiences this
        growing contribution of 20th century culture and
        &quot;enlightenment&quot;, I would like to make a few statements as a
        layman who reads and thinks about these matters quite often. These
        statements consist of my grievances and found faults with the prevailing
        mentality of our age. They are simple, and yet in my discussions with
        friends and those I am social with, they seem ignored or long since
        forgotten. I would like to state my grievances for the purposes of
        sharing with the readers one student's perspective on matters religious.</p>
<hr>
        <p><b>1. I do not believe in the Christian faith because it makes me
        feel good. </b>This is something that I find many people tacitly assume
        regarding me. And it is quite hard to dispel this notion from those that
        I talk to. Feelings should be irrelevant when a student examines
        metaphysical claims. Whether I like karma does not affect whether the
        principle of karma is a true on or not. Whether I like the nature of
        Allah does not affect the truth of the existence of Allah or the
        non-existence of Allah. Whether I like the idea of hell does not make
        hell any more real or any less real. The honest student must put his or
        her feelings aside and not ask how it makes him or her feel, but the
        student must ask whether the concept is true. And the student can
        determine the strength of a concept by applying rigorously the rules of
        logic and reasoned argumentation, employing evidence fairly and
        acknowledging the guiding presuppositions in the quest for knowledge. At
        least the student should. As metaphysics and religion deal with the
        truths of reality, we should approach things in a reasoned manner. As
        the physicist does not let feelings [or should not] affect the empirical
        research, neither must the philosopher and student let personal feelings
        affect the reasonableness of a dogmatic claim. This should be clear to
        our scientific age, yet I do not see it very often if at all.
        <p>Applying this to Christianity in particular, the student must always
        ask himself whether the evidence points to Jesus being God incarnate,
        whether the evidence points to the historical faithfulness of the
        canonical Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic writings, whether the evidence
        allows one to conclude that Jesus rose from the dead, et cetera. This is
        what must be studied if one wants to claim intellectual honesty.
        Anything less is a fruitless and tangential search that will miss the
        core of the dogmas that make this metaphysical system have the name
        &quot;Christianity&quot;. As a student of apologetics, I find many
        things about the orthodox Christian faith that repulse me and terrify me
        -- hell in particular. This concept scares me, frightens me, and creates
        many questions which I do not know the answers to. But I cannot let my
        dislike and loathing of hell influence me one way or the other.
        Similarly, the orthodox Christian faith makes the claim that all men are
        ontologically sinful, preferring to spurn communion with the Triune God.
        Is this not quite the slap in the face to we people who contend that
        there is some good in all men? I would much rather have it to where I am
        allowed some measure of intrinsic goodness in me. I do not like the fact
        that I am a sinner. Yet, the fact that I do not like this cannot affect
        the evidence for or against the faith. It is true that there are many
        things about the faith that I do not like. And if I went by feelings. I
        would not be Christian, for these doctrines are terrifying and
        repulsive. Yet there has never been shown to be a connection between
        personal likes and dislikes and the truth of set of claims. So I humbly
        request the imbiber of 20th century tolerance to not think that the
        basis of my faith is the set of &quot;good&quot; and
        &quot;pleasing&quot; doctrines that make me feel good. There is much to
        Christianity that is not tolerant. I do not enjoy being patronized by
        those who discount my studies in apologetics with the words &quot;I am
        glad it makes you feel good.&quot; There are other religions that could
        make me feel good all of the time, and if feeling good makes an
        objective claim true, we should be members of those religions that do
        make us feel good about ourselves. Christianity is emphatically not such
        a religion.
        <p><b>2. I do not believe in the Christian faith because that is my
        culture. </b>I often see religion viewed by the popular culture as
        merely an extension of one's ethnic culture. This is a logical fallacy.
        One can live out a truth in several ways that are consistent with the
        truth, but one cannot determine whether a statement is true based on
        comparing it with one's culture. Theism is not true because most
        cultures believe in some form of deity. Theism is true or false as the
        logical arguments for or against it make compelling patterns of reason.
        Whether my ancestors and culture were/are atheistic, polytheistic,
        monotheistic, et cetera, is completely irrelevant to the student of
        religion. God exists or God does not exist, and this tautological
        statement is true independently of culture or a way of life. Culture is
        a human construct and is not intrinsic to reality. Metaphysical claims,
        which all religions make, are intrinsic to reality. It is a category
        fallacy to apply standards that are not intrinsic to reality to claims
        that are intrinsic to reality.
        <p>And yet, this fact is missing in the promulgation of
        multiculturalism. Somehow, being raised in a culture is considered
        rational justification of the religion(s) of that culture. To ask for
        justification of a culture's religion that is independent of the given
        culture is something that I do not see much of. I grew up in a theistic
        culture, most likely a Unitarian culture. But this does not justify my
        being a Unitarian. The Jew grows up in a Jewish culture. He cannot point
        to his traditions and way of life as a defense of the veracity of the
        specific claims of Judaism. The Native American cannot point to his
        culture as a rational argument for the various beliefs of his beliefs.
        The Christian cannot point to his nice parish buildings and tradition
        for the rational defense of his beliefs.
        <p>The problem I see of equating the truth with a religion with the
        tolerance or recognition of one's culture is that the ethos which
        dictates that we accept all cultures is then used to imply that I must
        accept all systems of religious thought. And when I do not accept those
        systems of religious thought as being as consistent and rational as
        Christianity, there will be those who label me as intolerant, bigoted,
        et cetera. And this ad hominem fallacy by those who visibly align
        themselves under the banner of enlightenment and tolerance is supposed
        to excuse people from actually examining the claims of the religion. My
        friend is a Jew. He believes that Jesus was not God-Incarnate, the
        saviour of the world. I am Christian. I believe that Jesus was
        God-Incarnate, the saviour of the world. Is it too much for academia and
        intelligentsia to recognize that the aforementioned claims of Judaism
        and the aforementioned claims of Christianity are not compatible
        logically? He cannot be right at the same time as I am, nor can we both
        be wrong at the same time. As his claims are the negations of mine [and
        mine his], exactly one of us is correct in a theistic framework. I am
        not denigrating his culture to say that I consider the New Testament
        sufficient testimony to make his claims in error, nor is he denigrating
        mine to make the reverse claim. I might enjoy his culture or intensely
        dislike it, but this makes him no more right nor any more incorrect. My
        perception is that academia does not grasp this fact.
        <p>The consequences of equating religious thought and culture is that
        the drive to accept all cultures necessitates the acceptance of all
        religions generated, contained, or intrinsic to all cultures. And since
        a fair study of religions will find that they make exclusive claims
        about reality, the problem remains for the tolerant multiculturalist who
        must therefore accept all religions. From my perspective as an observer,
        there appear to be two ways to avoid this unpleasant consequence that
        the multiculturalist and the person who is tolerant have created: (1)
        Deny the objective propositional nature of religious language, and/or
        (2) Base the truth of a religion on purely utilitarian principles.
        <p>The problem that I see with (1) is that the propositions of most
        religions are no less objective than those of our ordinary language. For
        me to say that Jesus rose bodily from the dead seems quite objective,
        for it seems clear that either this statement or its negation is true.
        For me to say that Jesus is not the incarnate God-man seems quite
        objective as well, for again either this statement or its negation is
        true. What I see as an observer is the denial of the objective nature of
        these statements. And, I have yet to see [in my limited studies
        admittedly] a way of deconstructing the objectivity of the
        aforementioned statements that keeps our &quot;ordinary&quot; language
        objective. That is, I have yet to see a way of denying the objectivity
        of Christianity's claims as meaningful statements that does not also
        deny the objectivity of any statement we human beings might make. If I
        am wrong or ill-informed about the absence of any meaningful
        deconstruction of religious language that does not also deconstruct the
        rest of language, then I shall have to seriously grapple with this. One
        final note: I often find that those who deconstruct language still have
        a curious desire to themselves be spiritual. Yet after deconstructing
        religious language, all that one can do is base one's faith on
        existential principles, which have no apologetic value.
        <p>The fallacy of (2) is quite clear, however. Utilitarian concerns are
        quite arbitrary and are based on relative standards. Basing one's belief
        on the results that such beliefs achieve does not affect the intrinsic
        truth of the religion that one holds. Christianity is not any more true
        or any more false because the hopes of eternal communion with God give
        me a purpose or joy in life. Islam is not any more or less true because
        it gives its adherents a strict and unambiguous moral code to live by.
        In fact, utilitarianism seems to be self-defeating as a criteria for
        determining religious truth, for it must be first determined whose
        definition of utility will be used, and the only way of determining
        whose definition of utility is most worthy of being employed is to
        compare all definitions of utility. But to compare all definitions of
        utility requires a non-utilitarian and absolute standard to measure the
        definitions by, else one engages in the fallacy of special pleading in
        holding that his or her own measure of utility is superior. And those
        systems of thought that we consider evil [Nazism for example] which make
        metaphysical claims about reality were indeed quite reasonable under the
        utilitarian auspices of those who promulgated them. In short,
        utilitarianism cannot be used as a measure of truth. It must be added
        that two people, one of whom follows the claim &quot;Materialism is
        true.&quot; while the second follows the claim &quot;Materialism is not
        true.&quot; can both lead full and meaningful [at least to themselves]
        lives that measure high on their scales of utility. Yet in reality,
        either materialism is true or it is not. The law of the excluded middle
        holds irrespective of whether one's definition of utility is satisfied
        or not. Christianity stands and falls on the evidence and not on how
        well it meshes with my culture or the culture of others. Let the
        academic cries of tolerance not overstep their place by dictating that
        all religions are equally true. This is false to any honest student and
        patronizes those who truly care about whether something is true or not.
        <p><b>3. Please do not think that providing a psychological motive for
        my beliefs excuses one from examining the evidence. </b>I find this
        quite commonly and it again misses the point of honest inquiry. Whatever
        be the motives one has for asserting the truth of a statement, the
        truth-value of the statement must be ascertained by evaluating the
        statement objectively. The fact that, say, Christianity provides an
        objective basis for morality [as Christian morality derives its
        existence from God and not from utilitarian concerns] and it gives its
        adherents an objective reason for claiming that their existence is truly
        meaningful, but these facts cannot be used as arguments for the faith in
        the strictly logical sense. Nor can telling me that my beliefs are
        acceptable because they make me psychologically whole, healthy,
        well-adjusted, et cetera, really do anything other than patronize me.
        How a faith makes me feel has nothing to do whether it is true or not.
        In talking with skeptics I have often heard the claim that a religion
        [such as Christianity] which teaches that men are intrinsically evil and
        are repulsive to God's presence holds people back and lowers their
        self-esteem. The assertion that the Christian faith cannot be true on
        this basis is then made. Yet, this is a logical fallacy, for one's
        psyche does not establish metaphysical truth. A religion that makes one
        feel good cannot be given any <i>a priori </i>favour over one that does
        not make a person feel good.
        <p>This student has seen in the Christian church a remarkable apostasy
        from the historic teachings of Scripture based on the assertion that
        such teachings are repressive and cause people to not have self-worth
        and personal pride. Yet the question of whether the teachings are true
        is brushed aside for the psychological arguments. Telling me that I
        believe in the Christian faith because the idea of a saviour is
        comforting is not a logical argument against the faith. My telling the
        Jew that he is afraid to leave his Jewish modes of worship does nothing
        to establish the truth of Christianity. The Scientologist who tells me
        stories of how people are happy after becoming Scientologists is not
        being rational when he expects this to convince me that the claims of
        Scientology are true. All of these stories are examples of
        psychologizing away the need to study whether the claims of a religious
        system are true. It is patronizing to me to have my faith justified or
        attacked on psychological principles.
        <p>It is important to note that pointing out those who do not comport
        themselves according to a religion while claiming adherence to that
        religion cannot be used as an argument against that religion. I often
        hear that believing Christianity allows one to feel self-righteous and
        the Christian faith is often pushed aside because it opens the door for
        feeling better than one's neighbour. These things do happen but again
        these are psychological considerations and not things that have to do
        with the intrinsic truth of the claims of the faith. For example, Jesus
        was the saviour of the world or he wasn't. It doesn't matter how Tom
        acts. It does not matter that Dick was a hypocrite last night. It
        doesn't matter that Harry acted in a most God-displeasing manner. It
        does not matter that your Christian friends might [mistakenly] have an
        inflated sense of self-righteousness. What does matter is that Jesus
        either is saviour of the world in the Biblical sense or Jesus is not the
        saviour of the world in the Biblical sense. How you or I or our friends
        or our neighbors act is not germane to the issue. Psychologizing as
        justification for one's claims is a fallacy both ways. One can not use
        it to deny or establish a religion.
        <p><b>4. Please do not tell me that all religions are meaningfully
        similar or that all are correct. </b>The simple fact is that an
        examination of the major world religions will reveal stark metaphysical
        differences. The Muslim Qur'an mocks the idea of one God consisting in
        three Persons. Pantheistic religions teach that all of the universe is
        God, while Christianity teaches a God that is ontologically separate
        from creation. Christian Scientists deny the existence of sin, Jews
        acknowledge the existence of sin. Jehovah's Witnesses deny the tri-unity
        of God, Christians uphold the tri-unity of God. And so on. All religions
        are different. To say that they are equal or that they are all the same
        is a statement that is ignorant as well as patronizing. Let us at least
        be honest and acknowledge that the religions found among mankind make
        very different claims. Often these claims are exclusive with respect to
        the claims of other religions. To brush past this truth and to preach
        tolerance in the sense that considering another religion to have false
        metaphysical beliefs is wrong and not enlightened is to deny the truth
        of the law of the excluded middle.
        <p>What I thus ultimately contend should be done is to drop this talk of
        tolerance and to get to the bottom of these things. Put the finest
        apologists for each religion in debates and educational seminars and let
        us rationally evaluate the claims of each faith. Let us examine each
        faith under the lens of logical scrutiny and see if the claims follow.
        Let the presuppositions be clearly stated and defined. If this cannot be
        done, and I do not know if the academic worship of tolerance and
        multiculturalism allows this, at least do not patronize the members of
        each faith with the idea that their religion is some arbitrary system of
        thought that they hold for arbitrary and subjective reasons. I can only
        speak for myself here of course, but given the fact that various
        religions make propositional and exclusive claims about reality, I would
        think that one is bypassing the issue of whether a religion's claims are
        true by the continued promotion of a most unreasonable tolerance.</blockquote><!--DEBUG NotifyLocal 1 [Unreasonable Tolerance] [10]-->
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